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Cameron Zero Red Federation 224	Posted - 2013.11.20 00:12:00 - [1] - Quote Darius JOHNSON wrote: On behalf of the Goonswarm Federation I'd like to apologize for this oversight. I told the GoonWaffe Economic Council that we should ask the forums for their enlightened opinion on how we should manage our pocos and it seems they didn't listen. I'm going to have them fired as soon as I finish unseating The Mittani. laugh "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 224	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:48:00 - [2] - Quote Noir. declares war on Red Federation and Blue Republic after RvBee spends the day removing high sec custom's offices. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 227	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:28:00 - [3] - Quote Johnny Marzetti wrote: Doctor Fabulous MD wrote: Zimmy Zeta wrote: This thread is weird. There is this huge elephant standing in the middle of the room, but everybody is so busy with whining over taxes or falling for the usual, tedious Grrr Goons rhetorics that our pachydermic friend gets completely neglected. So RvB and GSF have just announced that they are allied- not just for a singular event like "Burn Jita", but for the foreseeable future My mind just got blown into a million little pieces.... the blue doughnut extends to highsec Is it really a doughnut then? Maybe more of a blue waffle? Hmmm... I hadn't been made aware that I was basically a member of GSF, now. Does this mean I can also make the "join us for 500m application fee" offers? When do I get my membership card? Can I dock at VFK? This is all new and terribly exciting for me. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 227	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:36:00 - [4] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Cameron Zero wrote: Can I dock at VFK? This is all new and terribly exciting for me. If you have standings then yes you would be able to dock. Are you blue, or just third partying on all our wars But, but, that poster said we're ALLIES now! (No, I get that, and I seriously doubt it. Just being a bit silly. ;) ) "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 227	Posted - 2013.11.20 20:01:00 - [5] - Quote Rita Riddick wrote: It's entertaining to see how delighted RvB is to join ranks with the mentally challenged and morally ******** Goons. I wish you a dreadfully happy marriage. I'm just amused is all. No good deed goes unpunished, as they say... We're trying to free you from the insufferable Interbus overlords, you know. :p "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 228	Posted - 2013.11.20 20:16:00 - [6] - Quote Del DelVechio wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Cameron Zero wrote: Rita Riddick wrote: It's entertaining to see how delighted RvB is to join ranks with the mentally challenged and morally ******** Goons. I wish you a dreadfully happy marriage. I'm just amused is all. No good deed goes unpunished, as they say... We're trying to free you from the insufferable Interbus overlords, you know. :p next time there's some fun third party sov war in nullsec, join us? Just remember our blobs are only worth 75m, not 750bn...... IF that! "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 230	Posted - 2013.11.20 21:57:00 - [7] - Quote Godwin's Law? "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 230	Posted - 2013.11.20 22:47:00 - [8] - Quote Khanh'rhh wrote: Highsec needs to be seen a flowchart or something or they can't lead A to B to C Making an awful big assumption that they'd understand a flowchart. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 230	Posted - 2013.11.20 22:54:00 - [9] - Quote Gaia Ma'chello wrote: All the COs I use have been turned into POCOs. I did a test to better understand the tax rate you see when doing a "get info" on the POCO. The value you see is the total tax, NPC + PC. In addition the effect of your skill is included. For me the result is the planets I like to use will actually have a smaller tax than they did pre-expansion. Which, really, is the point. :) "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 232	Posted - 2013.11.20 22:58:00 - [10] - Quote Ginger Barbarella wrote: You need to understand that the people who LIKE gate camping or station camping and wardec'ing industry corps DON'T CARE about PI in any way, shape, or form. They pewpew a few customs offices, think they're pissing people off, and feel good about themselves until the Cheetos bag runs dry. PI matters to people who use it to build stuff (like the guns and ammo the above like shooting), and those affected negatively will just move their operations. It really isn't a big deal. I'm sure the RvBee thing (or whatever they're called) will turn out to be a metagame of it's own, but it would be nice to (finally) see a coalition of high sec industrials, missioners, and others band together to set up an alliance of sorts (not a real alliance, cuz that would be too juicy of a target) in a given constellation or two, and operate there on a cooperative system. But the likelihood of that happening is about the same as the Goonies actually doing something right for once. RvBee is lowering the amount you pay for PI in high sec, while simultaneously creating both an income stream AND conflict opportunities. As this appears to be win-win-win for everyone involved, I'm still trying to wrap my head around anyone complaining about it. (Now, people setting stupid high taxes, that's a valid complaint, of course.) "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"

Cameron Zero Red Federation 232	Posted - 2013.11.20 23:03:00 - [11] - Quote SurrenderMonkey wrote: Cameron Zero wrote: (Now, people setting stupid high taxes, that's a valid complaint, of course.) Define "valid complaint". Who would address this complaint, and how? The who would be players who were unhappy with said "stupid high taxes" and the how would be by declaring war and tearing down said POCOs. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 237	Posted - 2013.11.20 23:56:00 - [12] - Quote Ginger Barbarella wrote: Cameron Zero wrote: SurrenderMonkey wrote: Cameron Zero wrote: (Now, people setting stupid high taxes, that's a valid complaint, of course.) Define "valid complaint". Who would address this complaint, and how? The who would be players who were unhappy with said "stupid high taxes" and the how would be by declaring war and tearing down said POCOs. It's rather idiotic to suggest wardec'ing goons et al by anyone other than another null sec alliance, so do everyone the favor of not trying to support your argument with dumb comments. This was clearly another move by CCP to reinforce the "bigger is better" gameplan for high sec. I'll just move my operations elsewhere when a large group of nullbears move into town; no sweat for me. And me without my tinfoil hat! "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 238	Posted - 2013.11.21 17:29:00 - [13] - Quote Rita Riddick wrote: You all sit around and fluff each other to the point of embarrassment. Don't need to fluff each other while you're here! "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 238	Posted - 2013.11.21 18:16:00 - [14] - Quote Alice Doombringer wrote: WEll... I just see that Goonswarm and its friends are only ones benefitting from the poco:s. and i quess it was their idea at the start anyways. Prior to Rubicon, Interbus custom's offices charged you 17% tax. Post Rubicon, RvBee's POCOs charge you 15% (10% if you train a skill). Tell me again how RvBee are the "only ones benefitting from the poco:s"? "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 238	Posted - 2013.11.21 19:03:00 - [15] - Quote Alice Doombringer wrote: well.. lets just see month later and goons owns the all hisec customs offices... so the bright idea to allow players own customs offices is just idea to fill goon wallet.. fine exert your power then... you want every place to be nullsec so that you can have fun. This is a special kind of paranoia. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 238	Posted - 2013.11.21 20:50:00 - [16] - Quote Rita Riddick wrote: So your solution is to stfu or move? You guys are so full of yourselves that it's pathetic. Selective reading comprehension, I love it. I'm pretty sure more than "stfu or move" have been offered as solutions. Let's see... Possible Solutions: 1) Accept the change, train a skill, pay less than 17% tax. 2) Don't accept the change, gather some friends together or hire mercenaries and DO something about it. 3) STFU and either give up on PI or move elsewhere. 4) None of the above, continue to complain here. We have seen #2 happen, and RvB has received wardecs because people have decided to DO something about it. Whether they are successful or not, they aren't sitting around on a forum whinging about it, wringing their hands, and gnashing their teeth while wailing at the heavens. Complaining that you are but a single, lonely, and penniless capsuleer who has no power to do anything really only does yourself a disservice. Perhaps you should re-evaluate your position in a massively multiplayer game? "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 241	Posted - 2013.11.21 21:47:00 - [17] - Quote So much funny here. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 241	Posted - 2013.11.21 22:13:00 - [18] - Quote Mangala Solaris wrote: Alice Doombringer wrote: Well... for starters they will be getting all the taxes. prior to rubicon.. hisec tax wasn't 17%.. it was 10% and as they take all the pocos of hisec.. well.. i don't see much difference then for to npc control except tax is then 15% minimum 10,000+ POCOs. Are you seriously saying we took all of them in 2 days. Oh god you people are so awful it hurts to share space with you. Every. Single. POCOs. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 248	Posted - 2013.11.22 17:28:00 - [19] - Quote Rita Riddick wrote: BoB/Goons/RvB all the same to me... How sad for you, but it's nice to see you've changed your signature twice now. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 248	Posted - 2013.11.25 15:25:00 - [20] - Quote mynnna wrote: Allow me to submit a bit more fuel to the fire: http://i.imgur.com/eeDapgf.png When you have bees wearing the RvB colours, it is a glorious day, IMO. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"

Cameron Zero Red Federation 249	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:28:00 - [21] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Thomas Hurt wrote: If anyone had any doubt as to the C.c.P./G.O.O.N. link, they need look no further than this change to confirm the incestuous relationship between the two. How else would the Goonies have been able to put down POCOs with their Toonies to earn Iskies so soon after the patch went live? Methinks they knew about the changes in advance... It`s not like there were devblogs and feature post on the forum explaining upcoming feature free to be read by everybody. If only we had those then it would be fair. Hey, now, you cannot expect your normal player to have to look at something outside of the game to know what's coming up. That's UNFAIR to expect, you know. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 249	Posted - 2013.11.26 01:00:00 - [22] - Quote Louis Robichaud wrote: Rita Riddick wrote: Louis Robichaud wrote: Thomas Hurt wrote: If anyone had any doubt as to the C.c.P./G.O.O.N. link, they need look no further than this change to confirm the incestuous relationship between the two. How else would the Goonies have been able to put down POCOs with their Toonies to earn Iskies so soon after the patch went live? Methinks they knew about the changes in advance... My faith in humanity demands that I believe that this post was sarcastic. For those who agreed with the above post, I remind you that RvB has more POCOs than the goons and has the first high sec ibco kill in the game! Therefore, by the same "logic", RvB doesn't just have CCP links, RvB is CCP! You're an idiot and your logic is flawed...to say the least. You noticed that the logic was flawed?!? All praise baby karate jebus, there still is hope for humanity! I doubt it. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 251	Posted - 2013.11.27 16:53:00 - [23] - Quote Rita Riddick wrote: Johnny Marzetti wrote: Haha, you call me a sexhaver like it's an insult. That's between you and your boyfriend. Oh ho ho! Apparently gay is an insult. sigh Kids... "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 255	Posted - 2013.11.29 16:33:00 - [24] - Quote Steve Ronuken wrote: mynnna wrote: Katrina Oniseki wrote: So wait, Goons are actually not trolling Highsec with huge tax rates, and are setting decent taxes to encourage people to use them? You know, I kinda respect that. When it suits us, we can behave as legitimate businesspeople. This is definitely a case where it suits us. We get a nice income out of setting fair tax rates that encourage people to use (or continue to use) our customs offices, and besides, the tears coming from people who rage out at the mere idea of us owning some small part of highsec are far sweeter than anything we'd get from people complaining about huge tax rates. It's win/win, really. With more tears coming from people who complain getting higher tax rates Who'll then complain that they were right the whole time. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"
Cameron Zero Red Federation 256	Posted - 2013.12.01 18:34:00 - [25] - Quote Louis Robichaud wrote: Rita Riddick wrote: Looks like I struck a nerve. GooniesGäó don't like people talking about their schemes and pet relationships. Mark my words, GoonieGäó controlled POCO's won't be good for anyone but them. It is a good thing that RvB controls a bunch then hmm? And, since RvB is a Goon pet, mathematically, it means that the Goons control them. Assuming I'm understanding the little troll, who still hasn't shown us on the doll where the big bad goons touched her... "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GÇª"

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